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Stokely Carmichael: Mrs. Carmichael, when you came to the United States with your children, where did you live?Mable Carmichael: We lived at Stebbins Avenue for a while.Stokely Carmichael: What kind of neighborhood was it?Mable Carmichael: It was kind of a mixed neighborhood, but a little on the rundown side.Stokely Carmichael: What do you mean by 'the rundown side'?Mable Carmichael: Streets were dirty, garbage pails all thrown around and not covered; and things like that.Stokely Carmichael: How big was the place you lived in?Mable Carmichael: We had a three room apartment there.Stokely Carmichael: And how many people lived there?Mable Carmichael: When my kids moved to the United States, we were still living there, my husband and I; so that made five children, because I had to there.The five that came with their aunt, my husband and I.Stokely Carmichael: How many is that all together?Mable Carmichael: Five and three. Eight.Stokely Carmichael: How was life in general for you children? I mean, could they do other things most children in the United States could do? I mean, did they have enough money to do those things?Mable Carmichael: No, we didn't.Stokely Carmichael: Why didn't they?Mable Carmichael: Because my husband didn't make enough money.Stokely Carmichael: Why didn't he make enough money?Mable Carmichael: He was a carpenter and he worked two weeks in, four weeks off. He drove a taxi cab part of the time...Stokely Carmichael: But there were other carpenters who lived better than your husband.Mable Carmichael: Of course.Stokely Carmichael: Why didn't your husband?Mable Carmichael: Because he was laid off. He was always the first to be laid off.Stokely Carmichael: Why was he always the first to be laid off?Mable Carmichael: Because he was negro. He always said, because he was a colored man. Because, naturally, in Trinidad, we used the word colored. We never used the word negro. So, he always said, because he was a colored man.Stokely Carmichael: Thank you.

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