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I have to do well enough there, and I think I will …. I'll catch fire. And if I catch fire, I think the sky is the limit. Poor showings in both or either of those first two primaries can doom a campaign. The next debate is being hosted by Fox Business and is on January 14. John Kasich on Sunday express optimism that he ’ll be in the main-stage debate and declined to comment on fellow GOP candidate Texas Sen. Rand Paul saying he wo n’t compete in the second-tier contest if demoted as a result of FOX Business criteria, which involves rankings in national, Iowa and New Hampshire polls.