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I have dealt with them face-to-face with them believing I was one of them.The notoriety gained by killing someone like Penn or even Del Castillo will actually turn these bastards on, it's a step into the dark world of the kill-crazies. Believe me it is there, and unwittingly these two may have stepped into a world where there is an actual competition to kill them. I sincerely hope I am proven wrong, but after 25 years of deep cover work in that world, pessimism is a blessed virtue.