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He said for the longest time he was going to support Hillary Clinton. She was the inevitable nominee in his mind. All he cares is that the best candidate beats the Republican nominee. But then (the) email (issue) happened, and he started distrusting her credibility a little bit, mainly it was Donald Trump. If Trump is going to win the nomination, Mike Glover suggests, anybody can beat him. So now he's leaning toward Bernie Sanders. Donald Trump has kind of given him permission to go a little bit more toward his heart than his head. And I wonder if there are other Iowa Democrats going through the same kind of thinking.