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Does dangled mean that he( Cohen) raised it and I mentioned it to Rudy Giuliani, and Rudy Giuliani said the President is not going to discuss pardons with anybody ? If that's dangling it, that's dangling it for about 15 seconds, the first time I kind of danced around the issue because Michael Cohen brought it up with me and I told Michael Cohen,' Look, this is way too premature. ... But if you want me to bring it up, I will bring it up.' And I did.