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I had a conversation with Don McGahn about trying to make White House personnel available for interview that might have had contact with Russians, it's very possible that I answered a question about our investigation when I listed those four individuals because they were public entities then, with one exception — I thought George Papadopoulos was ; George Papadopoulos was not public at that time. ( Virginia Democratic Sen.) Mark Warner had been out talking about Mike Flynn in February, The New York Times wrote an article with all three names in February, and Carter Page self-named Virginia Democratic Sen. as receiving a letter from us on March 6... and my conversation happened after that.