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One of the most painful things for a startup founder is when you get started the company is small, nobody can see the future yet and [ the ] best talent won't join for that reason. Therefore, we had to hire friends, friends can do a bit of accounting, friends can do a little bit of HR. Here's the dilemma : If the company doesn't go well, friends support each other, everyone was cool. If the company goes well, you know you have to let go.