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In 2016, he got nominated, everybody sort of panicked and we all tried to beat him and obviously we failed, one of the things we did at the time was a bunch of elites from Reagan Democrats and Jeb Bush era signed letters, talking about why they didn't like Donald Trump, but so much of the support for Donald Trump was an anti-elitism play. So our focus in 2020 is really thinking about real people and real voices and how they're thinking about Donald Trump after seeing Donald Trump be President for the last four years.