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The folks that are in the middle, the moderate folks, the White college-educated women living in the suburbs, are looking at what is happening realistically. They're looking at what is happening in their own neighborhoods, whether it's Covid or whether it's the marches in support of Black Lives Matter among their own White neighbors and saying( Donald Trump message) does not comport with how I see the world, and Donald Trump is just trying to divide us, and I think that just builds on top of it.