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When I see people in clinic, I talk about the vaccine every single day. I'm trying to reduce vaccine hesitancy, and the strongest weapon I have is the data. I can tell people that these two vaccines have been studied in 70,000 people -- more than 70,000 people -- in this two-dose strategy. And when given that way, they're both 95 % effective, and basically no one gets critically ill if you get this vaccine. ... Once you break from the data, I can no longer say that.