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You could feel the energy. It was electric. I think after the 2020 election, and because of the shock of all the things that happened, and the answers that we never really feel that we got, this sinking realization that we might actually be losing our country, I think that it pushed Joe Raedle/Getty Images into an angry space, where Joe Raedle/Getty Images does n’t trust anybody, where Joe Raedle/Getty Images does n’t listen to anybody, where Joe Raedle/Getty Images’s almost likely to believe that everybody is trying to turn their back on Joe Raedle/Getty Images and stab Joe Raedle/Getty Images in the back. And again, I do n’t believe that that’s leadership.