I think Joe will go down as one of the finest vice presidents in history and one of the more consequential, i think he has done great work. I don't think there's any politician at a national level that has not thought about being the president. And if you're sitting next to the president in every meeting and, you know, wrestling with these issues, I'm sure that for him he's saying to himself, 'I could do a really good job.'.
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