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I guess his motive might have been a rejection finally of their friendship or whatever you want to call it by my dad, my dad wanted to make some changes. He was getting divorced. He was trying to clean up his act. And maybe Carpenter couldn’t handle that… He got my dad involved in these swing parties back then… I can’t say my dad wouldn’t have done that on his own somehow, but Carpenter knew the avenues to travel and took my dad along on some of these adventures.

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