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I think part of it is some reality testing, people are saying look, we want to change the police, but you know we also got a violent crime issue, we have a domestic violence issue... then there's a need to reform American police departments. I think you can do that, but I think what people are saying is, let's do it in a responsible way, let's involve the community, let's educate the police, let's hire better, let's train better, let's supervise better, but at the same time you've got a significant crime issue and you can't ignore that.

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