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Everybody assumed that China would be all in with Russia in Ukraine. They’re not all in, as a matter of fact I called him this summer to say, this is not a threat, just an observation: Look what’s happened to Russia. Six hundred American corporations have pulled out of Russia, from McDonald’s to Exxon. And I said, ‘You’ve told me all along that the reason why you need a relationship with the United States and Europe is so they invest in China.’ I said, ‘Who is gonna invest in China if you engage in the same kind of deal? You’ll notice there’s not been much going on there.’.

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