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I think that those porch talks, the Instagram lives were kind of essential in that process because I think that at the time, I was unwilling to do outdoor comedy or drive-in comedy or zoom comedy, I just, I couldn’t because it just seemed too difficult and I didn’t need that aggravation and I didn’t see it as a way to to process or create, i think that the Instagram lives became essential in me engaging with an audience of people that were watching, and so I was in a zone where I was putting stuff out in the world for people and doing it much like I do comedy.

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