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David Kepesh: [interview on the Charlie Rose show] We're not all descended from the Puritans.Charlie Rose: No?David Kepesh: There was another colony 30 miles from Plymouth, it's not on the maps today. Marymount it was called.Charlie Rose: Yeah, alright, you mention in your book...David Kepesh: The colony where anything goes, went.Charlie Rose: There was booze...David Kepesh: here was booze. There was fornication. There was music. There was... they even ah, ah, ah, you name it, you name it. They even danced around the maypole once a month, wearing masks, worshiping god knows what, Whites and Indians together, all going for broke...Charlie Rose: Who was responsible for all of this?David Kepesh: A character by the name of Thomas Morton.Charlie Rose: Aah, the "Hugh Hefner" of the Puritans.David Kepesh: You could say that. I'm going to read you a quote of what the Puritans thought of Morton's followers: 'Debauched bacchanalians and atheists, falling into great licentiousness, and leading degenerate lives'. When I heard that, I packed my bags, I left Oxford, and I came straight to America, America the licentious.Charlie Rose: So what happened to all of those people?David Kepesh: Well, the Puritans shot them down. They sent in Miles Standish leading the militia. He chopped down the maypole, cut down those colored ribbons, banners, everything; party was overCharlie Rose: And we became a nation of straight-laced Puritans.David Kepesh: Well...Charlie Rose: Isn't that your point though? The Puritans won, they stamped out all things sexual... how would you say it?David Kepesh: Sexual happiness.Charlie Rose: Exactly. Until the 1960s.David Kepesh: Until the 1960s when it all exploded again all over the place.Charlie Rose: Right, everyone was dancing around the maypole, then, make love not war.David Kepesh: If you remember, only a decade earlier, if you wanted to have sex, if you wanted to make love in the 1950s, you had to beg for it, you had to cop a feel.Charlie Rose: Or... get married.David Kepesh: As I did in the 1960s.Charlie Rose: Any regrets?David Kepesh: Plenty. Um, but that's our secret. Don't tell anybody. [laughter] That's just between you and me.

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