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Richard Dawkins: Now, you raised the question of religious people saying that atheists don't have any particular reason to be good and any particular reason to choose morality rather than immorality. If that were true, wouldn't it be a terrible indictment of the, um, weakness of the morality which religious people claim is the only reason they're being moral: is that they're frightened of God. Whereas, atheists who are moral - and there's no evidence whatever that atheists are less moral than religious people - atheists are moral because they think it's a good thing to be moral, they've worked it out or they've thought about the underlying moral philosophy, rather than being scared into being moral by a kind of Great Headmaster in the Sky who is keeping an eye on them.Narrator: Yeah, in more than one debate that I'm aware of - in fact, this happens quite a bit - what a theist will say an atheist will be prone to do is raping babies, being completely selfish, killing, murdering, uh, and it does kind of make you wonder if that's how, if that's what *they* would do, if *they* didn't have a god to keep them in line. So, who knows, maybe we're lucky that they do.

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