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Jim: What turns you on?Pam: I don't know. Experience. Freedom. Love... Now. Peyote's like love. When it's given it's blessed. When it's sold it's damned. I like peyote. I like acid, it's easier to get. I like the spiritual voyage. The first time I did acid I saw God. I did. I had a friend who was Christ. And he was Judas too. I suddenly knew the secret of everything -- that we're all one, the universe is one. And that everything is beautiful.Jim: Is it? I don't know. I think you're alive by confronting death -- by experiencing pain.Pam: I think you're alive by recognizing beauty -- seeing truth because when you discover truth you discover what love is... we're all saying the same thing. It's "love me and I'll love you."Jim: It's only through death that you know life. Jesus, medicine men heal people by sacrificing their own life.Pam: Do you love death?Jim: I think life hurts a lot more than death. When you die the pain is over.

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