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[the stage is being set up for Debbie's ballet production. There is a swan that glides along behind as part of the backdrop]Louis Theroux: Who is doing that? How is that actually moving?[Louis walks over to look behind the scenery. The camera follows him]Debbie McGee: Oh no, we don't look at things at like that, we don't film things like that, thank you. Because that takes away the magic for the people.Louis Theroux: Oh, don't be ridiculous!Debbie McGee: It does! People don't want to know how it works.Louis Theroux: They do.Debbie McGee: They don't!Louis Theroux: It doesn't take away the magic. No one thinks that's a real swan, for goodness sake. It's just a cardboard cutout.Debbie McGee: But different people have different ways of doing it and if someone wants to know how we do it they have to pay us for our method.Louis Theroux: Really? Is that like privileged technique?Debbie McGee: Yeah, absolutely. So therefore you don't give things like that away.[she steps back]Debbie McGee: So, please don't... Please.[Louis finally steps away but the camera keeps filming the man behind the scenes working the swan]

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