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Ben Kurtzman: I grew up in the northwest section of Baltimore. It was all Jewish. In fact I didn't even think of it in those terms, I just assumed everyone was Jewish. The whole world was Jewish. I remember when I was in the second grade, first clue that some people were different occurred to me then. I even thought Ping Dir was Jewish, the Ping part didn't sound Jewish but I just assumed it was a nickname. Her brother's named Min-Huey and that definitely sounded Jewish. I began to sense there was a world beyond what I knew when I had lunch at Butch Johnson's house... Mrs. Johnson: Is there something wrong Ben? Ben Kurtzman: No, this is fine; I've just never had raw bread before. Mrs. Johnson: What? Ben Kurtzman: We always cook it, you know? Toast it. Mrs. Johnson: Oh I can do that. Ben Kurtzman: No what, there's too much white here. The milk is white, the bread is white, it's all white stuff. Mrs. Johnson: Well what do you normally have? Ben Kurtzman: Not this. Ada Kurtzman: Well what was on the bread. Ben Kurtzman: A luncheon meat, I¡¯ve never heard of it. Ada Kurtzman: Not bologna, not salami? Ben Kurtzman: No, a luncheon meat, with mayonnaise, and milk, everything was white. Ada Kurtzman: Oh, they must not be Jewish. They¡¯re the other kind. Ben Kurtzman: A couple years later I realized, the ¡°other kind¡

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