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Alan Eppes: You know, Don and Charlie, they graduated high school on the same day.Terry Lake: Thank you. Don's mentioned it. A few times.Alan Eppes: Kind of puts an edge on that sibling rivalry thing, you know.Terry Lake: I'm sure it does. Having a kid like Charlie had to put some unusual pressure on the family. How old was he when you first realized he was exceptional?Alan Eppes: He was three when he multiplied four-digit numbers in his head. By the age of four, he needed special teachers, special classes. My wife - I mean, his mother and I, we put a lot of time into his education. It was Don who was the one who had to get used to taking care of himself.Terry Lake: Well, he might have gotten used to it, but I'm not sure he's as good at it as he thinks he is.Alan Eppes: Well, it's hard for him to ask anyone for help. And it's really hard for him to ask Charlie.

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