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His blood stain has not been cleansed, and I get it that circumstances change. But what's the fundamental issue in the world right now ? It's the authoritarians. ... I don't think you go say,' Well, circumstances change. We sit down with a murderer who killed a journalist who lives in Virginia.' I think it's a big mistake. I'd meet with other — I'd meet with( the) foreign minister. I'd meet with the Saudi ambassador. I'd meet with the King, but I wouldn't meet with MBS.