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Mrs Gideon: Who are you?Howard: Howard Moon, I work here at the zoo.Mrs Gideon: Why do you have crumbs round your eyes?Howard: Oh, that's just me and Vince, been playing, er, games... crumb eye, we have to get crumbs in, er, each others eyes... and erm, winner get a, rake. That's a good book. I like that book.Mrs Gideon: Oh have you read it?Howard: Oh yeah, yeah twice I read it, erm once the original and then in the paperback. Really related to the character of erm, Jonathan, thought he was great.Mrs Gideon: The serial killer?Howard: Yeah, I mean in as much as, you know, we've all, we can all relate to a killer, erm, I mean in our minds, we've all killed in our minds.Mrs Gideon: What are you talking about?Howard: Well... as a writer it's erm, it's something that I, I have to do, I have to get involved in the darker side of the human psyche.

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